From: Earle Martin
Date: 21:48 on 15 Dec 2005
Subject: Adobe Reader (and Winamp) / No, I don't want to upgrade.
On #perl on irc.perl.org today:
< clintp> Winamp-- Checks for new versions, even if I don't want it to.
Claims "security issues". Bullshit. If I have an old version,
and I want to keep it, that's my problem. STOP ASKING ME.
This reminded me of Adobe Reader. Every time it launches because I've
encountered a PDF [cf. hates passim] somewhere on the web, it brings up a
modal dialog telling me I should download about 5MB of "upgrade" because
there's a new "feature" that, er, lets people add background sounds to PDF
files. Er, what the hell? That's one of the most retarded ideas I've ever
heard. If they're "portable" documents, then that means they should work
cross-platform... including on machines that don't have sound cards. Like
the one I'm typing on right now.
The worst thing is that it doesn't give you a "no, I don't want your stupid
update" button. Just "install now" and "install later".
< clintp> Same genre of bullshit. Any programmer that bows to the wishes
of managment and only gives "YES" / "ASK ME LATER" options needs
to be killed. And then anally probed with a jeep.
Concur.
From: Nicholas Clark
Date: 21:55 on 15 Dec 2005
Subject: Re: Adobe Reader (and Winamp) / No, I don't want to upgrade.
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 09:48:27PM +0000, Earle Martin wrote:
> On #perl on irc.perl.org today:
> The worst thing is that it doesn't give you a "no, I don't want your stupid
> update" button. Just "install now" and "install later".
>
> < clintp> Same genre of bullshit. Any programmer that bows to the wishes
> of managment and only gives "YES" / "ASK ME LATER" options needs
> to be killed. And then anally probed with a jeep.
>
> Concur.
Sounds much like my parents' digital TV box.
"New channels detected. Process them now, or later?"
My father is in the middle of watching something, so he chooses "later".
5 minutes later,
"New channels detected. Process them now, or later?"
urge
To
KILL
**RISING**
You know, some people might actually be using the box to watch TV? Eh!
Surprise. Would never have thought of that, would you?
Nicholas Clark
From: Chris Devers
Date: 01:50 on 16 Dec 2005
Subject: Re: Adobe Reader (and Winamp) / No, I don't want to upgrade.
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> Sounds much like my parents' digital TV box.
>=20
> "New channels detected. Process them now, or later?"
>=20
> My father is in the middle of watching something, so he chooses "later".
>=20
> 5 minutes later,
>=20
> "New channels detected. Process them now, or later?"
>=20
> urge
> To
> KILL
> **RISING**
>=20
> You know, some people might actually be using the box to watch TV? Eh!
> Surprise. Would never have thought of that, would you?
Or here's a crazy idea: the cable companies all have channel listings on=20
hand, why not tie that in to this new functionality ?
if customer_defers_new_channels()
wait_until
current_show_ends
or
customer_changes_channel
Really, should that be so hard to do? If the set-top box is smart enough=20
to keep polling the customer until s/he submits to its tyrrany, it=20
should surely be smart enough to at least figure out a reasonable and=20
mutually agreeable time for the tyrrany to begin.
--=20
Chris Devers
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From: Alexander W. Janssen Date: 10:38 on 16 Dec 2005 Subject: Re: Adobe Reader (and Winamp) / No, I don't want to upgrade. Earle Martin schrieb: >The worst thing is that it doesn't give you a "no, I don't want your stupid >update" button. Just "install now" and "install later". > > > Even worse: Recently i upgraded the Reader and that little bugger wanted me to install the Yahoo-toolbar as well. So i deselected the Yahoo-toolbar. At least i tried to. It work to some extend - means after deselecting the toolbar Acrobat Reader refused to upgrade due to "unmet dependecies". A day later (and i bet after lot's of complains) the toolbar was deselectable... Alex.
From: A. Pagaltzis Date: 13:43 on 16 Dec 2005 Subject: Re: Adobe Reader (and Winamp) / No, I don't want to upgrade. * Earle Martin <hates-software@xxxxxxxx.xxx> [2005-12-16 14:28]: > Every time it launches because I've encountered a PDF [cf. > hates passim] somewhere on the web, it brings up a modal dialog > telling me I should download about 5MB of "upgrade" because > there's a new "feature" that, er, lets people add background > sounds to PDF files. Okay, this isn't "check for updates" related hate, but it's Reader hate nonetheless: so I went into the options and disabled Javascript, because, heck, I don't want random PDFs running random code on my machine. Right? Well, every time I quit the damn thing, it tells me the document in question uses Javascript and asks me to enable JS. What the...? Apparently, some other plugins need Javascript to work and won't function correctly if you disable it. There is NO WAY to disable JS SEPARATELY for documents vs. plugins. Yeah, really damn clever. (My solution was to remove a dozen-odd plugins. Who needs that crap anyway; plus I get faster startup times. Win-win!) Regards,
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