From: Earle Martin Date: 11:04 on 14 Oct 2003 Subject: xemacs, again That fucking open dialog. If you tab-complete the path to the thing you're trying to open, and then decide that you do actually want to use the file listing doodad and double-click a directory listed in it, it appends the name of the directory you click to the path you've tab-completed. So you can be in ~/foo and tab-complete to ~/foo/bar, but then open bar by clicking it and you get ~/foo/bar/bar. Gah! Also, the default configuration that comes in the Debian package for xemacs21 is broken. Whenever I open an HTML document with it it switches to HTML-mode; unfortunately in HTML-mode every time I hit "tab" to indent a line it hijacks one of my panes to tell me this: (1) (error/warning) Error in 'post-command-hook' (setting hook to nil): (wrong-type-argument arrayp nil) What the hell does that mean? I shouldn't have to read a manual about LISP to fix the fucking thing BEFORE I CAN EVEN USE IT. Someone gave me a workaround, which is M-x customize-font RET font-lock-keyword-face RET [pick a font, save it] but that's just not good enough. Did the people who put this package together not test it? Oh. Look. This problem had a fix diagnosed for it TWO YEARS AGO! http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-beta/200102/msg00467.html So the problem is with "PSGML", whatever that is. I don't care. I only care that there's a problem that hasn't been fixed and it's impeding my efficiency. For fuck's sake.
From: peter (Peter da Silva) Date: 14:11 on 14 Oct 2003 Subject: Re: xemacs, again > but that's just not good enough. Did the people who put this package > together not test it? Emacs is written by people who think like Larry Niven's 'Pak'. Or given the fact that Niven knew some of the people involved, it's possibly more accurate to say the Pak are probably inspired the people who wrote Emacs. It's like a perpetual prototype: nothing is ever one skerrick more polished, complete, or debugged than it has to be for someone who is a skilled programmer with detailed knowledge of its innards to use it. There's a lot of this going around, even among the ones who seem to be trying to do something different. I still haven't figured out how you're really supposed to set the Gnome login program up to select different window managers, or the way you're really supposed to add a program to the Gnome desktop menu. I've done both, but I ended up doing it completely different ways each time and neither was really what you'd call convenient.
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